What makes a weapon valuable? - Guild Wars Forums

Mirrough · Aug 21, 2011, 12:33 AM // 00:33

So what i mean is weapons that sell for over 10 platinum.
What properties should it have (halving casting, skill recharge, armor etc)? Does the appearance matter alot?

If someone could give me an example of a weapon for a fire elementalist for instance, that costs alot, that would be great.

I figure extra health is always good, but how much? Same goes for armor, i just don't know what are the limits...

I would like a basic idea of what makes stuff valuable, don't want to sell a great weapon to a merchant you know.

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 21, 2011, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Darmikau · Aug 21, 2011, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Skins are basically the only thing that matters.

If your weapon isn't one a few, 10-20, sought after skins in the game, it's virtually worthless. Or, at least, the time it would take you to find someone to buy it would far overshadow the actual time you would want to try and spend selling it.

Trying to balance weapon prices was a double edged sword that Anet failed to dodge. They either left the old salvage/mod system in place and had max weapon prices going through the roof, or implemented the mod system they did and only skins become the deciding factor. They went with the latter, and now you'll be hard pressed to get more than 5k out of anything that isn't a BDS, Froggy, CC, or similar chest-only weapons. There's also the problem that any class can use any weapons, so you also have weapons like Volt Spears which have ridiculously high prices even though they're intended to be used solely by paragons. Hopefully that gets fixed in GW2.

Venganza · Aug 21, 2011, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Sought after skin or rarity, nothing more: period.

**cosyfiep** · Aug 21, 2011, 04:33 AM // 04:33

its all supply and demand...you find out what is in demand (sort after), even if its the uglist thing around, if peeps want it it will be worth more.

Mirrough · Aug 21, 2011, 05:11 AM // 05:11

Thanks for all the replies.
Kind of disappointing really tho. I guess i'll start farming some obsidian armor materials or something like that to make money lol.

KingCrab · Aug 21, 2011, 06:19 AM // 06:19

Some mods and inscriptions are valuable regardless of skin. Furious spear heads go for a lot, for example. Mostly though, it is just the skin. There are lots of ways to make money. Check the farming forum.

gremlin · Aug 21, 2011, 11:14 AM // 11:14

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Originally Posted by Mirrough

Thanks for all the replies.
Kind of disappointing really tho. I guess i'll start farming some obsidian armor materials or something like that to make money lol.

You start making money by just playing the game.
Stage 2 is to farm and imo the best items to farm for are those players currently want in large numbers.
Check which consumables players want and get the materials for them because worst case is you end up with a load of cons for your own use.

I usually ignore what players are selling and check out what they are trying to buy.
Feathers were very popular to make essence of celerity I made quite a bit farming them but it may have changed.

Real money comes later by buying low and selling high but you really have to have a lot of seed money and know the market or a simple mistake can wipe out all your profits.

Zebideedee · Aug 21, 2011, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Depends, some are over 10k because of the materials required to create one like destroyer, tormented & oppressor. Others are valuable because they are rare (and more often than not ugly) drops from the end chests in dungeons like frog scepters, bone dragon staffs etc. The lower the requirement increases the value eg. a Req 9 Fire frog scepter will be more expensive than a Req 13 Fire one.

Skyy High · Aug 21, 2011, 04:48 PM // 16:48

You want to make money, farming skins probably isn't the way to go, honestly. I make my money just playing the game, doing the zaishen quests, picking up everything and salvaing/ID-ing as necessary. Once you get enough, you can start powertrading, which is really how you make stacks of cash (if you so desire. At that point, there's little point in getting more money, IMO).

Laraja · Aug 21, 2011, 05:21 PM // 17:21

I get money just by doing everyday things. Zaishen quests, saving gold zaishen coins, trading them for the more expensive tomes (like rit tomes), or large equpment packs then selling them. Getting zaishen keys with balthazar faction. I save stacks of mats for consets and then make them and sell them. Just... regular things instead of endless mind-numbing farming. And by doing so, I have rare weapons, multiple sets of elite armor on all my toons, etc... Honestly, if you want to make money wouldn't it be better to put all this effort into the real world where money counts? I never understood farming and never will.

Mirrough · Aug 22, 2011, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I just want to get the HoM armors, weapons and possibly buying some minipets. But it all costs, so basically i just wanted to know which kinds of weapons sell well, so i wouldn't merch an item that is worth 100k.

Not really fond of that hardcore farming either.

gremlin · Aug 26, 2011, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by Mirrough

I just want to get the HoM armors, weapons and possibly buying some minipets. But it all costs, so basically i just wanted to know which kinds of weapons sell well, so i wouldn't merch an item that is worth 100k.

Not really fond of that hardcore farming either.

Farming to be honest is less boring than standing in a town for hours days weeks spamming wts xxxxx, in fact almost anything is less boring than that.

I got to 100k by clearing around the lagoon on shing jea island lots of Kappas and Nagas Doing that once or twice before each play session in normal mode.
Got the odd gold item lots of materials and of course gold and it soon added up.
Then I started doing the free treasure chests from Nightfall I got many gold items before they started dropping mainly purple instead.

Later I took the 100k or so to close to 1000k feather farming, again I do not hard core farm I just mix a couple of runs in with normal play.
That turned out to be more money than I needed.

Shady Guy · Aug 26, 2011, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by gremlin

Farming to be honest is less boring than standing in a town for hours days weeks spamming wts xxxxx, in fact almost anything is less boring than that.

The trick to trading: you don't stand around all day in town. You flip once between LA d1 and Kama with an ad, then play the game, or afk in kama d6 and do something else.

Aug 21, 2011, 12:33 AM // 00:33	#1
Mirrough Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2011 Profession: E/Mo	What makes a weapon valuable? So what i mean is weapons that sell for over 10 platinum. What properties should it have (halving casting, skill recharge, armor etc)? Does the appearance matter alot? If someone could give me an example of a weapon for a fire elementalist for instance, that costs alot, that would be great. I figure extra health is always good, but how much? Same goes for armor, i just don't know what are the limits... I would like a basic idea of what makes stuff valuable, don't want to sell a great weapon to a merchant you know.

Aug 21, 2011, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#2
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...t10490411.html Searching before posting is always a good idea. __________________

Aug 21, 2011, 04:33 AM // 04:33	#5
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	its all supply and demand...you find out what is in demand (sort after), even if its the uglist thing around, if peeps want it it will be worth more. __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Aug 21, 2011, 01:15 AM // 01:15	#3
Darmikau Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Pun Goes [Here] Profession: P/W	Skins are basically the only thing that matters. If your weapon isn't one a few, 10-20, sought after skins in the game, it's virtually worthless. Or, at least, the time it would take you to find someone to buy it would far overshadow the actual time you would want to try and spend selling it. Trying to balance weapon prices was a double edged sword that Anet failed to dodge. They either left the old salvage/mod system in place and had max weapon prices going through the roof, or implemented the mod system they did and only skins become the deciding factor. They went with the latter, and now you'll be hard pressed to get more than 5k out of anything that isn't a BDS, Froggy, CC, or similar chest-only weapons. There's also the problem that any class can use any weapons, so you also have weapons like Volt Spears which have ridiculously high prices even though they're intended to be used solely by paragons. Hopefully that gets fixed in GW2.

Aug 21, 2011, 02:18 AM // 02:18	#4
Venganza Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2011 Guild: Fire	Sought after skin or rarity, nothing more: period.

Aug 21, 2011, 05:11 AM // 05:11	#6
Mirrough Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2011 Profession: E/Mo	Thanks for all the replies. Kind of disappointing really tho. I guess i'll start farming some obsidian armor materials or something like that to make money lol.

Aug 21, 2011, 06:19 AM // 06:19	#7
KingCrab Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009 Profession: W/E	Some mods and inscriptions are valuable regardless of skin. Furious spear heads go for a lot, for example. Mostly though, it is just the skin. There are lots of ways to make money. Check the farming forum.

Aug 21, 2011, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#9
Zebideedee Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 55?? 57' 0" N / 3?? 12' 0" W Profession: N/Me	Depends, some are over 10k because of the materials required to create one like destroyer, tormented & oppressor. Others are valuable because they are rare (and more often than not ugly) drops from the end chests in dungeons like frog scepters, bone dragon staffs etc. The lower the requirement increases the value eg. a Req 9 Fire frog scepter will be more expensive than a Req 13 Fire one.

Aug 21, 2011, 04:48 PM // 16:48	#10
Skyy High Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2006 Profession: R/	You want to make money, farming skins probably isn't the way to go, honestly. I make my money just playing the game, doing the zaishen quests, picking up everything and salvaing/ID-ing as necessary. Once you get enough, you can start powertrading, which is really how you make stacks of cash (if you so desire. At that point, there's little point in getting more money, IMO).

Aug 21, 2011, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#11
Laraja Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Guild: Descendents of Honor Profession: Rt/	I get money just by doing everyday things. Zaishen quests, saving gold zaishen coins, trading them for the more expensive tomes (like rit tomes), or large equpment packs then selling them. Getting zaishen keys with balthazar faction. I save stacks of mats for consets and then make them and sell them. Just... regular things instead of endless mind-numbing farming. And by doing so, I have rare weapons, multiple sets of elite armor on all my toons, etc... Honestly, if you want to make money wouldn't it be better to put all this effort into the real world where money counts? I never understood farming and never will.

Aug 22, 2011, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#12
Mirrough Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2011 Profession: E/Mo	I just want to get the HoM armors, weapons and possibly buying some minipets. But it all costs, so basically i just wanted to know which kinds of weapons sell well, so i wouldn't merch an item that is worth 100k. Not really fond of that hardcore farming either.